I can think of little to add that hasn't been said already, and since I've only had so much RP in Redwall itself, I figure I've only the right to say to much (like that's ever stopped me! Bwahahaha!). However, for what it's worth, I primarily agree with Kevarr that OOC restriction is the last thing we want to impliment. Running Ruingate for some time, we've certainly had ups and downs, and we've certainly had our share of angst at tribulation, as any newish, non-canon group will, but I've never even considered regulating RP from OOCly, with restriction in mind. One of the reasons that I believe Redwall has survived as well as it has through multiple drops in MUCK activity is because it is freeform, requiring no rank, no application and no prerequisite, short of being weaponless, to RP there. Of course much is owed to it being the heart of the books, but I am certain the fact that anyone at all can start there and hang about to get oriented without fear of being barked at for not toeing the line or whatever has been vital to the success of the Abbey as a group, and the MUCK as a whole.
Well, that's something /not/ to do, but I haven't yet addressed the problem itself: the 'angst' floating about. My stance on this is that it is a problem if it is a.) not IC, and b.) causing a loss of enjoyment on the MUCK.
For the first criteria the answer may be to start up the MUCK RP lessons again. I'm not staff, so it's not my province, but if someone could get me an OOC room and a timetable, I'd do my share. This MUCK means enough to me. This might not stop the problem, as it were, but having been new not all that long ago myself, I know how hard it is to know what is 'right' (i.e. constructive) and 'wrong' (i.e. detractory) without being helped through the steps. I picked it up fairly quickly, because of my age, but some players are young and don't have the same ease. For all those of you who are young enough to remember middle school... remember middle school. You can't expect crafted poses and deep characters from people who don't even know who /they themselves/ are yet. The only way to help is to do just that: help. I think we need a constructive additude, not a restrictive one.
The second criteria may be aided by addressing the first, but it may not. Even when provided with fine RPers, an RP can fade into quiet, peter out, or get boring. This is, of course, not helped if half the RPers are crying in the corner for their dead parents/sibling/wife/village, but once again, it is a habit that must be weaned off, not struck down. I've received a number of reprimands for poor RP habits, and I found they left me feeling like a scolded child, and killed the RP mood entirely for me. Yes, it may be hard to orient a new person and get them used to RPing with a community mindset, but the more you ignore attention-seeking RP the more it will happen to try and regain just that attention. If you haven't the energy, try to think of a reason to move to another room, and see if some other RPer would be willing to step in for you. If we didn't want to have unpolished RPers enter our world, we'd put up an application requirement, and heaven forbid that fall on a juvenile genre!
Well, I'm not sure if I said anything new or worthwhile, but I'm glad the topic is being brought up again. I just hope we can think of a way to solve the problem, instead of just a way to cut it out. We need a panacea, not an amputation.
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Well, that's something /not/ to do, but I haven't yet addressed the problem itself: the 'angst' floating about. My stance on this is that it is a problem if it is a.) not IC, and b.) causing a loss of enjoyment on the MUCK.
For the first criteria the answer may be to start up the MUCK RP lessons again. I'm not staff, so it's not my province, but if someone could get me an OOC room and a timetable, I'd do my share. This MUCK means enough to me. This might not stop the problem, as it were, but having been new not all that long ago myself, I know how hard it is to know what is 'right' (i.e. constructive) and 'wrong' (i.e. detractory) without being helped through the steps. I picked it up fairly quickly, because of my age, but some players are young and don't have the same ease. For all those of you who are young enough to remember middle school... remember middle school. You can't expect crafted poses and deep characters from people who don't even know who /they themselves/ are yet. The only way to help is to do just that: help. I think we need a constructive additude, not a restrictive one.
The second criteria may be aided by addressing the first, but it may not. Even when provided with fine RPers, an RP can fade into quiet, peter out, or get boring. This is, of course, not helped if half the RPers are crying in the corner for their dead parents/sibling/wife/village, but once again, it is a habit that must be weaned off, not struck down. I've received a number of reprimands for poor RP habits, and I found they left me feeling like a scolded child, and killed the RP mood entirely for me. Yes, it may be hard to orient a new person and get them used to RPing with a community mindset, but the more you ignore attention-seeking RP the more it will happen to try and regain just that attention. If you haven't the energy, try to think of a reason to move to another room, and see if some other RPer would be willing to step in for you. If we didn't want to have unpolished RPers enter our world, we'd put up an application requirement, and heaven forbid that fall on a juvenile genre!
Well, I'm not sure if I said anything new or worthwhile, but I'm glad the topic is being brought up again. I just hope we can think of a way to solve the problem, instead of just a way to cut it out. We need a panacea, not an amputation.