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Chatterbox: 2005/07 - 2005/08

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Created by Leonie
Last modified 2005-09-01 10:21 AM
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Salutations

Posted by: Tarin at 2005-07-16

Hello I'm Tarin Swiftwind I'd thought I'd say hello and annouce my intention to join Rewall abby, I would love to be a healer but I know I need to be a novice first, any sugestions?

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MPI 1O1

Posted by: DZeil at 2005-07-18

Well, starting on the 23rd, I'll begin planing a series of MPI classes aimed towards teaching anyone interested easily how to begin MPI.

Players get this idea in their heads about it being very complex and difficult, when in truth it's quite easy to learn, and with some practice, and guidance anyone can learn, and use it.

I will teach MPI, starting with the basic, and then progressing towards the advanced. You can learn all about different things, even a bit of "building regions for MPI" which would involve parent rooms, and other such things.

MPI lets you do lots of neat stuff, for example, my @doing status is updated every time I connect to the muck by it's self to say how many days Drakain has been a character for. You could have random @doings display, or an action that changes them when you want. You could have meaningful lists of players dynamically update, cross-region chats, cool locks... just about anything. Heck, you could make a mini-MU* if you wanted (I played around with that concept myself for a while) that sits on the RW game, but has it's own object database, and commands.

Or even if you're not into building rooms, but more of an RP-er, you could have your description change based on rooms , or regions you're in. Your status can change it too. I can even show you how to display texts when you log in, or others see when you disconnect.

The things you can do with MPI are so many, and the best part is that you can use it too.

So, in order for me to help you, you have to help me first.

Here's what I need: If you are interested in attending, please reply here, or send a P #Mail to Drakain. (Drakain is my only character so don't bother looking for alts :p.)

If you would like to help, that's wonderful! Tell me what you can (or would like to) do.

If you have any questions, just go ahead and ask me here or in a P #mail.

Lastly, the reason planning starts on the 23rd, is because that's when I get back from a trip! So, responses will probably be non-existent until that date.

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Everyone. Read.

Posted by: Amethyst at 2005-08-08

Okay. This is an age old debate, but I've been hearing a -lot- lately from more than one person about the constant, unpleasant angst RPing at the Abbey. In fact, I've been told it's a MU*-wide problem, effecting virtually every area. I've been giving it plenty of thought, and I've heard things on both sides from others. Here's some things I've heard, and my two cents on the matter:

I think if a lot of the RPing is the angsty stuff, there must be a demand for it, otherwise it wouldn't be there. There's a complaint that it's hard for new characters to get involved, which is pinned on the angsty-ness. Realistically, it would take time to become a full, official part of a new community, to form friendships and be involved in things. No matter what, it'll take at least a little time and effort on the new character's part to do this.

However, any half decent player at least mentally acknowledges that an RP where you do the same thing over and over and over and over gets old. Arguing and depression in almost every RP can get tiresome. Additionally, it -is- hard for new people to get involved that first time, and I think the angst does share some of the blame. I remember having moderately difficult time with that when I was new back in the days of the earthquake, and some people /did/ flat out ignore my little character. Though I think it's hardly fair to say everything must be dropped every single time a newbie peeks into the room, the Abbey -is- supposed to be especially friendly to these new people. The Abbey especially, out of every area on the MU*, should be assisting these new people in becoming a part of the MUCK and making them feel welcome.

Now that I've given some points for both sides and brushed over some of my reasoning, here's my conclusion. Angst in the Abbey is okay. It's realistic. No one should be booted from the Abbey for being dramatic. In fact, new people often as not have some of the most dramatic characters in existence. I don't think you should draw a line and say, 'After you've been here X number of days, -all- angst -must- be removed from your RP here, or you aren't welcome anymore.' Likewise, it would be ridiculous to indiscriminately kick out newbies and oldbies alike for indulging in a love for the dramatics. I don't know how fair it would be to actually force people to only RP the cheerful "Canon" Redwall. At the end of the day, all friendly cheeriness would have the same result as angsty gloom-and-doom ones. Bored, unhappy players who leave. So, I very strongly disagree when it comes to removing people from the Abbey for angsting. HOWEVER, I think everyone needs to stop and take a good hard look at their RPing. If you find that 9 out of 10 of your RPs are about screaming at someone, bickering, sob stories, etc., it may be a good idea to try out something different in your next few RPs. Again, no one enjoys doing the same thing with you every time. Finally, -everyone-, when you see a new person enter the room, don't take the easy way out and ignore them. It's your responsibility to help make them feel welcome on this MU*.

I know what I've said here may make me sound hypocritical. I'm not asking everyone to be perfect always, vary the RP mood ten times a day, and make every new person feel like the king of the world. I'm just hoping that the people who read this will be inspired to make an effort, if they weren't already. Please. Really give this some thought, and do your best.

If you'd like to add your own two cents, please, feel free to do it here.

Happy RPing.

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Criticism instead of Attack

Posted by: otter at 2005-08-22

I'm the "end recipient" of complaints (such is my job).

One complaint I get often enough is that people are being critical and mean OOCly using tools like room-page.

Room-page is heavily abused in the game in general; it's distracting to see "a second channel" of junk during an RP. The command was meant to help coordinate OOCly events in the IC world. It wasn't meant to be a back-door chat-channel.

That said, people are using it to publicly castigate "mistakes" in other people. Even if the mistake is real and the suggestion good, it's much better to page the person (or whisper if they're a zombie) then to drag a conflict into the view of others and have it escalate.

Obviously, there are reasonable OOC comments and suggestions; praise comes to mind.

The general rule I try to use is: Praise in public, criticize in private.

And when you criticize, do it to the person you have an issue with, not your friends and neightbors. Gossip and cruel stories of other people always get back to the victim, and the victim complains to me.

The fact is, I can't make a rule that restricts people from gossiping; I don't make rules I can't enforce. But I can ask all who read this to please ... not gossip.

It's a minor thing, unless you're the one on the receiving end of the complaints. Or worse...unless you're the one being publicly ridiculed.

Keep the Light!

 
 

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